Katholisch Leben!

Den katholischen Glauben kennen, leben, lieben & verteidigen!

Die Entrückung

* 1 Thess 4:17 - Wir werden zusammen in die Wolken entrückt, dem Herrn in der Luft zu begegnen
* Mt 24:40 - Zwei Männer werden auf dem Feld sein, einer wird genommen und einer wird gelassen
Mt 24:47 - Ein Mann ist belohnt (Heil)
Mt 24:51 - Die andere wird bestraft (Hölle) (das lässt niemanden auf der Erde)
1 Thess 4.15 - Jesus kommt wieder einmal (nicht zweimal für eine Entrückung und ein Urteil)
Apg 3:20-21 Jesus muss im Himmel bis zu dieser Zeit bleiben
Apg 1:11 - Wenn er zurückkommt, er kommt ganz auf die Erde (nicht schweben über der Erde)
Mt 25:31-45 - Wenn er kommt wird er kommen, zu richten die Lebenden und die Toten
Mt 25:46 - Einige gehen zur ewigen Strafe, einige zum ewigen Leben (niemand auf der Erde zurückgelassen)

[*] Kennzeichnet einen Vers, der im Gegensatz zu katholischen Lehre verwendet wird.

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A friend of mine has been reading the "Left Behind" books that have all of this stuff about the "Rapture" in them...is there really going to be a "Rapture" like these books talk about?

No, there's not. The "Rapture" refers to a passage in First Thessalonians, chapter 4, which talks about Christians being "caught up" in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Many Christians believe, and the "Left Behind" books promote, that this being "caught up" to meet the Lord will occur before the Great Tribulation which is headed our way in the near future. Christians will simply vanish, meet Jesus somewhere in the air, and then return with Him to Heaven to await the end of time

But notice, in verse 17, Paul says that "...we who are alive, who are left," shall be caught up. Remember that...those who are "left" get caught up to meet the Lord.

The "Left Behind" books get their name from a passage in Luke 17 and a similar passage in Matthew 24 which talk about the coming of the Lord being like the days of Noah and the days of Lot. Matthew 24 puts it this way: "As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man...they ate, they drank, they married and they did not know until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of man. Then two men will be in the field, one is taken and one is left. Two women grinding at the mill, one is taken one is left."

"See," Rapture enthusiasts say, "One is taken, one is left...the Rapture! Jesus takes the Christians and leaves behind non-Christians!" Two problems with that interpretation: First, Jesus' coming is being compared to the days of Noah and the days of Lot. After the flood, who was left? Noah and his family...the good guys...the bad guys were taken! After Sodom and Gomorrah went up in smoke, who was left? Lot and his daughters...the good guys...the bad guys were taken! Second, remember 1 Thessalonians? It says that those who are "left" get to meet Jesus in the air. The good guys are left behind to meet Jesus.

In other words, you want to be left behind so that you can get caught up in the clouds to meet Jesus in the air and accompany Him back to earth at His 2nd and final coming. There will be no Rapture like the one the Left Behind books talk about...that view is not scriptural.

(Source: Bible Christian Society / John Martignoni. http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/apologetics/two_minute#1. Used with permission)

Signs of the End Times (Prophecies Of)

Can anyone here give me a description of the word prophecy.

A Biblical dictionary definition says: a true prediction of what is coming in the future. Of coming events.

When winter comes near to an end, we see signs that spring is coming soon.

We could say that the signs we see of the coming of spring are in a sense prophecies.
What signs do we see that spring is coming? (Snow is melting, robins, days are getting warmer etc)
Today I want to talk about signs that are pointing the fulfillment of end time prophecy.

In Matthew 24 the disciples asked Jesus when He would be coming again the 2nd time (to rule the earth) “and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" Matt 24:4 (King James Version)

The term; “the end of the world" refers to the time period we are now in, in which man rules the earth from the time of Adam to second coming of Christ when He (Jesus) will rule the earth for what the book of Revelations says will be 1,000 years. Rev. chpt 20 (God will recreate the earth and there will be no sin on earth for 1,000 yrs,) Isa. 65:17; 66:22; 2 Pet. 3:13; Rev. 21:1

We read:

Matthew 24:1-3
King James Version (KJV)
1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?


The first part of His answer referred to the time when Roman soldiers would destroy the temple, taking it apart literally stone by stone to get at the gold that was within the walls. This prophecy of Jesus was fulfilled in A.D. 70. This is also a prophecy the temple shall be destroyed again a second time. (which means the temple has to be built again before Jesus comes back again the 2nd time)

Jesus answers the second part by actually giving a description of what is known as the tribulation.

The tribulation is a 7 year time frame that will be so horrible on earth that anything else that has ever happened on earth up to that time will seem like a picnic in comparison. This is foretold also by the prophet Daniel and written about by the disciple John in Revelations.

His answer was a description of what the conditions on the earth will be like just before He appears in all His glory to rule the earth with a rod of iron. (Rev 2:27 “HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON” King James Version)

What we are seeing going on in the world today, is but a preview of what is coming.
Jesus describes this preview situation in Matthew 24:4-12 in which He is still actually talking about the tribulation, (but we are seeing the signs that winter is ending and spring is about to spring forth.)

Matthew 24:4-12 King James Version (KJV)
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Notice He uses the term “these are the beginning of sorrows" Likewise we are witnessing the beginning, a preview of what is about to come.

God has always given warnings of soon coming judgments upon the world, which is what the tribulation period is. It is His judgment, His wrath being poured out on an unrepentant, evil people (world). Examples of this are when Noah built the ark, God used Noah to warn the people 120 years ahead of time of the coming flood. God warned the people of Nineveh through Johnah of its coming destruction.

And God is giving us warnings now of the soon coming tribulation period by way of all these signs described by Jesus and other Bible prophets, that the time is near when God will unleash His wrath upon an unrepentant evil people.

Jesus also gave a prophetic sign telling everyone that when we all see these signs, know that the time is coming. He said:

Matthew 24:32-33
King James Version (KJV)
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

This prophecy is actually about Israel, the people of and nation, but it is also a sign for us to see, to know that the time of the end of the age is near. That God will be pouring out His wrath, His judgment upon this evil unrepentant world. (The fig tree is a symbol of Israel in the Bible)

This prophecy tells us that when the Jews repossess their land again, promised them through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and becomes a nation again which happened in 1948, know then that the time of the end is upon us.

The signs of the times are upon us. How can we know for sure this is true? Has God given us signs to see ahead of time that His judgment upon an unrepentant evil people is coming?


There are over 500 scripture prophetic verses pointing to the end times and the soon coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Verses

What did Jesus Himself say will be the signs? (Paralel passages Mark 13:24-27; Luke 21:7-17)

Matthew 24:4-14
King James Version (KJV)
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

So, what are these signs we need to be aware of?

False Christs Matt. 24;5

There have many over the years who have claimed to be the Messiah, and all these have died and have never risen again from the dead. Only one ever has, and that was Jesus Christ.

Today we have President Obama who claims to be the Messiah, and there are likely other, and then before long the Anti-Christ will come, in the tribulation period, who will claim to be God.

Next Jesus said you will hear of wars and rumours of war. Matt. 24:6
There almost has always been war, but in these last 30 or more, there has never been a time when there has not been a war somewhere in the world.
There are at this time more wars going on in different parts of the world than there ever has been at one time.

Famines Matt. 24:7
At this time there is almost a worldwide famine. People are going hungry and starving to death, not because there is not enough food to feed the people, but because of wars and politics.

Pestilences and earth quakes in diverse many many places) Matt 24:7
Pestilences are diseases. The worst case of worldwide disease is the Aids virus and there are very very many others diseases going on worldwide like never before. Polio for example which was nearly eradicated many years ago is making a comeback.
Flues with no cure are becoming wide spread. A flu can become deadly, literally.
Terrorists try to learn how to use chemicals in bombs to cause even more worldwide diseases.

Earthquakes are certainly nothing new, but the numbers of earthquakes happening at one time, in many different places all around the world on a daily basis unheard of even as long as about 10-20 years ago. These of course are not publicized. As of yesterday, May 12 there were approximately 150 earthquakes worldwide within the last week on a magnitude strength of 2.5 or greater

What all this means, is that on a world wide scale, these are happening on a greater scale of frequency than has ever occurred since the time of Adam. These things are happening more and more almost daily


And of course, let us not forget Israel becoming a nation again, and the Jewish people who were scattered throughout the world will begin to be re-gathered and go back to Israel.

These are but a few of the prophecies, predicted by Jesus to happen in the last days before He will come back and rule on earth for 1,000 years.

However, should we as Christians be overly concerned and worried? NO!
We need not be overly concerned and worried, because Jesus said firstly that these things must happen, and are only the beginning of worst things to happen.
Jesus compared this to when a woman is pregnant and is about to give birth. The frequency of her pains and the kicking of the baby within her womb become greater and greater the closer she is about to give birth.

Likewise, these things will continue to happen more and more the closer it gets to the time when He will return to earth.

2ndly, we do not need to worry because before things get so bad that the world can be destroyed by nuclear bombs or whatever, Jesus will call believers out of the world to be with Him so that we will not see the worst that is yet to happen.
These things like He said are only the beginning of how bad things are going to get, before it gets much much worse in a time called the tribulation period which we shall talk about next time.

Quiz

There are several Bonus questions listed. If you answer them correctly, one of the parts of the body will be removed from the hangman’s loose.
Hangman -Which team will be hung worse than the other?

1. What is the definition of prophecy?

2. What is meant by the term end times?

3. When the disciples came to Jesus they wanted to show Him
a) the Temple
b) the Sanctuary
c) the mountains

4.Bonus: Name one book of the Bible in which the prophecies we have been talking about are found in, or any other?
Daniel, Matt. Mark, Luke, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Revelations.

5. Jesus predicted that one (stone) would not be piled on top of another and be thrown down?

6. What metal was found in the temple walls that the Roman soldiers wanted? (Gold)

7. The term millenium refers to how many years? 1,000

8. What is the word, term used to describe the very last days on earth which is described as the judgment, wrath of God on earth? Tribulation

9. How many years long is the tribulation? 7

10. Jesus said He will rule with a rod of (iron)

11. Bonus question: What is meant by the term Rule with a Rod of Iron During Christ's Millenial (1,000 year rule)? His rule will be just and fair. There will be no leniency. If you are guilty, you will suffer punishment. Not like today where if you are found guilty you may not get much of a punishment. Ex. murder. God said anyone who murders, their life shall also be taken. Today few lose their life when they murder.

12. What nation is referred to as the fig tree? Israel

13. What is meant by the term false Christs? False Messiahs

14. What is meant by the term famine? Hunger, Starvation

15. What is meant by the term pestilence? Diseases

16. Bonus: What other signs do you know of or have heard of that point to the signs of the last days?

17. Bonus: Which book of the Bible gives a complete listing, description of what the last days, tribulation period and eternity will be like altogether? Revelation

18. The gospel of Jesus Christ will be preached to how many nations during the last, end times? (all)

19. What examples do we have of God giving a warning of coming judgment? Noah, Jonah

20. BONUS Double: What was the sign given Jonah of coming judgment by God. Johnah swallowed by a whale

21. Final Bonus Question worth three X's: What is meant by the term birth pangs? And for a four times bonus, to answer this question, the man is freed totally of being hung.

André (a non-Catholic Christian and also my best friend)

 

THE TRIBULATION PERIOD OVERVIEW

THE TRIBULATION PERIOD OVERVIEW

What is the Tribulation period?

The Tribulation will be a living hell with a degree of violence that is unparalleled in all of history.

The Bible gives us a lot of information about this horrible period of seven years that is fast approaching.

Many Old Testament passages and whole sections of the Bible speak about the soon coming Tribulation.

The book of Revelation focuses on it, particularly chapters 6-19.

The first mention of the Tribulation in the Bible is found in Deuteronomy 4:27-30. Before the Children of Israel entered the Promised Land, Moses warned them that if they were unfaithful to God, they would be scattered among the nations. He then prophesied that "in the latter days" they would come under "distress," and the result would be their "return to the Lord."

The prophet Jeremiah spoke of it centuries later and called it "the time of Jacob's trouble" (Jeremiah 30:7 KJV). In like manner, Daniel called it "the time of distress.”

The prophet Zechariah prophesied that two-thirds of the Jewish people will perish during this time. Of the remnant remaining, he wrote, "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined..." (Zechariah 13:8-9 KJV). These remaining Jews will finally come to God and become followers of Christ. Today, the majority of Jews do not believe that Jesus was and is the Messiah, that He is God.

The Bible makes it clear that all the nations of the world will experience catastrophic calamities. It will not be a time of peace as some think it will be.

The Length of the Time of the Tribulation Period

The prophet Daniel wrote that God would accomplish all His purposes for the Jewish people during a period of 70 weeks of years (490 years). Sixty-nine of those weeks of years (483 years) would lead up to the death of the Messiah, which happened when Jesus was hung on the cross exactly to the day as prophesied by Daniel.

The final week of years would occur at the end of the age,( which is the time period we are living in) right before the return of the Messiah (Daniel 9:24-27).

This concluding, final week of years (7 years) corresponds to the Tribulation for, as Daniel put it, it will mark the time when "the prince who is to come" will "make desolate" — a reference to the Antichrist.

The timing established by Daniel is confirmed in the book of Revelation where the Tribulation is divided into two periods of 3 1/2 years each (Revelation 11:3.7 and 13:5). The dividing point between the two halves of the Tribulation will occur when the Antichrist reveals himself by entering the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem, stopping the sacrifices, and declaring himself to be god (Matthew 24:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4; and Revelation 13:5-6).

The Starting Point

When will the Tribulation period begin?

The Bible says that it will start after the Jews have been re-gathered and have been re-established in their homeland and in their sacred city of Jerusalem.

That is that, the ancestors of the Jewish people whom God scattered all around the globe because they did not obey God, would come back to Israel just before the beginning of the Tribulation.

We see this happening now and that began in 1948 when Israel was declared a nation by the League of nation (what we call the United Nation today) The Jews from all over the world began to, and having been moving to Israel from all around the world.

Specifically, the Bible says it will begin at a time when all the world comes together against Israel over the issue of who will control the city of Jerusalem (Zechariah 12:2-3).

Zechariah 12:2-3
King James Version (KJV)
“2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.”

We are on the very threshold of the Tribulation today as we witness the United Nations, the European Union, the Vatican, and the Arab nations demanding that the Jews surrender their sovereignty over Jerusalem.

The specific event that will mark the seven year count down of the Tribulation will be the signing of a peace treaty between Israel and her Arab enemies — a treaty that will allow the Jews to rebuild their Temple (Daniel 9:27).

Daniel 9:27
King James Version (KJV)
“27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”

What will the Tribulation Period Be Like?

The Tribulation will be a time of great horror, unlike anything that the world has ever witnessed before. The Old and the New testify that it will a terrible time to be alive on planet earth.

Isaiah wrote that it will be a day of "fear of the Lord" (Isaiah 2:10,17,19 KJV).

Zephaniah proclaimed that it will be “a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,” (Zep 1:15 KJV)

Men will stumble around like they are blind and "their blood shall be poured out as dust" (Zephaniah 1:17 KJV).

Of this time Jesus said it will be a time of tribulation "such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be." (Matthew 24:21 KJV). In fact, Jesus said it will be so terrible that if it were not stopped at the end of seven years, it would result in the destruction of all life (Matthew 24:22).

Matthew 24:22
King James Version (KJV)
“22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.”

And the Apostle John wrote that the chaos will be so great that the leaders of the world will crawl into caves and cry out for the rocks of the mountains to fall upon them (Revelation 6:15-16).

Revelation 6:15-16
King James Version (KJV)
“15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:”


THE ANTI-CHRIST

During the Tribulation the Anti-Christ will rise to power and be the lone ruler of the world.

The Anti-Christ will rise to power because he will be seen as a great political leader at first whom will seemingly finally bring peace to the world and finally bring an end to the fighting between the Arab and the Jews which has been going on for thousands of years.

He will be seen to solve the world’s problems economically, politically and religiously.

He will be accepted by the Jews because he will be seen by them be as a political redeemer who miraculously works out a peace settlement that will guarantee their safety and will enable them to rebuild their Temple, which the religious Jews so badly want to do.

However, there is no indication that they ever accept the Antichrist as a spiritual redeemer — as their Messiah. In fact, when the Antichrist enters the Temple in the middle of the Tribulation and declares himself to be God, the Jews revolt against him (Revelation 12:13-17).


Revelation 12:13-17
King James Version (KJV)
“13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”


The woman mentioned here is the people of Israel who will flee to the mountains the get away from the Anti-Christ once he desecrates the temple and they realize who he really is.
When the Jews revolt against Antichrist, he will become obsessed with completely annihilating the Jewish people. That is when the "great tribulation" spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 24 will begin.

The Great Tribulation as spoken by Jesus, is the beginning of the last 3 1/2 years of that terrible period which will be far worse than the Nazi Holocaust. Two-thirds of the Jews will be killed (Zechariah 13:8-9).

Zechariah 13:8
King James Version (KJV)
“8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.”


The Antichrist will be possessed by Satan (Daniel 8:24), and Satan is determined to annihilate the Jews.

Satan's obsession with the Jews stems from the fact that he hates them with a passion. He hates them because they gave the world the Bible. He hates them because the Messiah came through them. He hates them because God loves them, and because God chose them to be a witness of what it means to have a relationship with Him. And Satan hates the Jews because God has promised over and over in His Word that at the end of the Tribulation, He is going to bring a great remnant to salvation through faith in their Messiah, Yeshua, Jesus.
The Jews will live in relative peace during the first half of the Tribulation, but not the Gentile nations, (the rest of the world.)

The wars of the Antichrist will devastate the world. One-fourth of humanity will die in the initial war (Revelation 6:8).

Revelation 6:8
King James Version (KJV)
“8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.”

That's roughly 1.5 billion people. According to Revelation 8 and 9, when the war resumes, one-third of those left alive will die (another 1.5 billion).
The first half of the Tribulation is going to be anything but a time of peace. It will, instead, be a time of unimaginable horror and destruction, for one-half of humanity will die in the first 3 1/2 years!

And also towards the end of the tribulation, the whole world will turn against the Anti- Christ and they go to war against him and his armies.

Daniel 11:40-45
King James Version (KJV)
“40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.”


Soul Harvest Tribulation Saints

During the Tribulation. There is going to be a great harvest of souls, people during the Tribulation. Some will be saved in response to the Rapture. Others will respond to the preaching of the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem (Revelation 11). The response of others will be stimulated by the Tribulation judgments which will motivate many to repent. Still others will respond to the special angel who will be sent by God near the end of the Tribulation to proclaim the Gospel to every living creature (Revelation 14:6-7).

Revelation 14:6-7
King James Version (KJV)
“6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.”

Many will be saved, but most of these will be martyred for their faith (Revelation 7:9-17).

Revelation 7:9-17 King James Version (KJV)
“9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.”
The church today, believers today need not fear, nor worry that they will go through the Tribulation, because the Tribulation is a time of God's judgment upon the unbelieving Gentiles and Jews who have rejected God's grace, love and mercy expressed in Jesus."

Romans 8:1
King James Version (KJV)
“8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

Paul wrote that we believers will be saved, delivered from the wrath of God, upon an unbelieving, unrepentant world.

1 Thessalonians 1:10
King James Version (KJV)
“10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.”

The church, believers today will have already been raptured and be with Jesus before the beginning of the Tribulation, and they are also returning with Him on earth at the end of the Tribulations.

Did you know that we will all be riding white horses coming back to earth with Jesus!

Revelation 19:8-14
King James Version (KJV)
“8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.”

We are that army in heaven whom will return with Jesus at the very end of the Tribulation period who will only be observers as Jesus destroys the final armies whom have gathered and come to destroy Him!

You will notice as you do a study of Revelations that after chapter 3, there is no more mention of the church until Rev. chapter 22:16, Why, because we have been raptured before the beginning of the Tribulation to be with Jesus and will be with Him in heaven during the entire Tribulation period until the last day when we shall witness Him destroy the armies of the earth whom think they can destroy God !

Purpose of the Tribulation!

How could a God of grace, mercy and love allow such terror and bloodshed during the Tribulation?

One reason is to satisfy the justice of God.

God is known to be a God of grace, mercy and love, but He is also a God of perfect justice, righteousness, and holiness. Therefore, He must deal with sin.
His justice demands it.

His love compels it. How could a God of true love simply overlook the actions of a murderer, rapist or a pedophile?

He must punish evil doers.

God is "slow to anger." He allows the iniquities, the sins of mankind to accumulate over long periods of time because He doesn't wish that any should perish (2 Peter 3:9).

2 Peter 3:9
King James Version (KJV)
“9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

God instead, desires that all should come to repentance.
But, God’s patience can only last for so long. He must punish unrepentant sinful people eventually.


Just as our justice system cannot allow evil people to continue in their wicked ways, God also cannot allow evil people to continue forever in their sinful ways.

Likewise as in the days of Noah when everyone was doing wicked things, God eventually had to do something about it, so He sent the flood to destroy the wicked evil people of the days of Noah.

Jesus said that in these last days people will be eating and drinking just as in the days of Noah.

Meaning that just as then when everyone was partying hardy, doing whatever they wanted even though they were disobeying God, it will be same in the last days on earth, when everyone will be doing whatever they want disobeying the ways and laws of God.

We see this today when people are murdering, committing abortion, lying, stealing etc. with no concern for others.

And so, just as in the day of the Flood, God will also judge and punish a sinful unrepentant people.

Secondly God purposes to save as many as He can and bring as many as He can into His kingdom.

Isaiah wrote concerning this; “for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.” (Isaiah 26:9 KJV)

Just as we learn to behave after being punished, God is wanting people to learn to behave and turn to Him after He punishes them.

Sadly Revelations tells us that though many will be saved during the Tribulation, the majority will not be saved.

On the contrary they will shake their fists at God, curse and swear at Him, because they do not want anything to do with Him.

They want to live their lives as they choose to do without a God to tell them what they should and should not do.

God’s message to us in these last days is: "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” (Rev 18:4 KJV)

He is calling us to a life of obeying Him, abstaining from sinful ways, so that we may enjoy a wondrous peaceful eternity with Him rather than an eternity in hell.

That is a choice we all have to make. To trust and obey, or face His wrath, His judgment.

What will be your choice?

André (as I said: a non-Catholic Christian and also my best friend!)

 

I'm reading a book that refers to the Catholic Church as being the "harlot of Babylon" as found in Revelation chapters 17 and 18. How would you respond to that?

I would respond by showing that Jerusalem actually fits the description of the harlot of Babylon, while the Catholic Church does not. Rev 17:1 refers to the “great harlot." How is the nation of Israel, with Jerusalem as her capital often referred to in the Old Testament? As a harlot. Why? Because the relationship between God and Israel was often described in marital terms. Therefore, when Israel would worship false gods, she was described as a harlot. Hosea 9:1, "Rejoice not, O Israel...for you have played the harlot, forsaking your God. You have loved a harlot's hire upon all threshing floors." So we see that Israel is often referred to as a harlot in the Old Testament.

Rev 17:9-10 refer to the seven heads (verse 3) of this beast the harlot is riding on as being “seven hills.” This is why a lot of anti-Catholic folks identify the harlot as the Roman Catholic Church, because Rome is a city on seven hills. However, we see that the seven hills pertain to the beast on which the woman is seated, not the woman herself. I believe, as do most scholars I've read - Catholic and Protestant - that the beast is indeed symbolic of Rome and the Roman Empire. But, if Rome is the beast, then that "proves" the woman sitting on the beast is the Catholic Church, right? Not so fast.

Rev 17:18 says this: “And the woman that you saw is the great city which has dominion over the kings of the earth." Some argue that the great city which has dominion over the kings of the earth is Rome. But, if verse 9, which refers to the beast the woman is seated upon, is referring to the city of Rome; and verse 18, which refers to the harlot, is also referring to the city of Rome, then the beast and the harlot are one and the same. Both are the city of Rome.

But, these are clearly two separate entities, so if one is Rome, then the other has to be another city - Jerusalem makes sense.
Some may say, "Well, of course the beast is Rome - the city on seven hills - but, the harlot is the city within the city, Vatican City, where the Catholic Church is headquartered." The problem is, though, there was no such thing as Vatican City until the early 20th century. When John wrote Revelation, he spoke of the harlot in the present tense: "...IS the great city which HAS dominion over the kings of the earth.” He could not have been referring to Vatican City.

Rev 17:16, "...the beast will hate the harlot; they will make her desolate and naked, and devour her flesh, and burn her up with fire." Does that mean that Rome will burn Vatican City? (There goes a bunch of tourist revenue!) If the beast is Rome (or the Roman Empire), and the harlot is Jerusalem, then we can see here a clear reference to the destruction of Jerusalem, by Rome, which sacked and burned Jerusalem in 70 A.D. - leaving her naked and burned up with fire - just as the Bible describes the harlot of Babylon.

Finally, the harlot of Babylon is referred to as the "great city," in Rev 17:18 and in a few verses in chapter 18. Yet, Rev 11:9 says, "...and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the GREAT CITY which is allegorically called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified." The "great city" is where their Lord was crucified. Where was Jesus crucified? Jerusalem.

(Source: Bible Christian Society / John Martignoni. http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/apologetics/two_minute. Used with permission)

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Links International

Scripture Catholic: The Time Is Unknown

Scripture Catholic: The Rapture

Catholic Answers: The Rapture

CatholicBridge.com: Are Catholics into the Rapture?

EWTN: Rapture

Carl E. Olson: Five Myths About the Rapture

Carl E. Olson: Recycled Rapture

Carl E. Olson: No Rapture for Rome

Envoy: LaHaying the Rapture on Thick

John Salza: The Second Coming

Deacon Paul Carlson: Daniel, Revelation and the Rapture Myth

David Bristow: Questioning the Left Behind Rapture

Colin B. Donovan: Endtimes, Millenium. Rapture

Catholics United for the Faith: Now You See 'Em, Now You Don't: Dispensing with the Rapture

Catholics United for the Faith: Apocalypse Not Now - The Church, The Millennium, and The Rapture




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A 1000-year reign? Click here for more infos on the "millenium":


Catholic Answers: What is the millenium?
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Catholic Answers: Stumpers for Jehovah's Witnesses
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Catholic Answers: History of the Jehovah's Witnesses
Catholic Answers: Pastor Russell
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No Rapture for Rome. The Anti-Catholics behind the Best-selling Left Behind Books by Carl E. Olson

False Profit. Money, Prejudice, and Bad Theology in Tim LaHaye’s Left Behind Series by Jimmy Akin

phatmass.com: The Rapture, Millenialism and Dispensationalism

Left Behind: Any Link With the Early Church. By Dwight Longenecker

Rapture or Rupture? May 29, 2012 By Fr. Dwight Longenecker

 

Take a (critical) look at this (non-Catholic) homepages about the rapture to understand the theology behind it better:



Rapture Ready: http://www.raptureready.com/index.php

The Rapture in Two-Part Harmony. In Defense of the Faith (Friday, October 14, 2011. Jack Kinsella - Omega Letter Editor): http://www.omegaletter.com/articles/articles.asp?ArticleID=7115&showflash=0

Joel C. Rosenberg: Many people have asked me this year, “What is the Rapture”? Here’s what I tell them: http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/many-people-have-asked-me-this-year-what-is-the-rapture-heres-what-i-tell-them/

Resources

David Currie: The Rapture: Ruse or Reality

Dave Armstrong: Resources

Paul Thigpen: The Rapture Trap

Family Life Center: Delusions of Rapture & Prophecy

Steve Wood: Introduction to Biblical Prophecy on CD

Catholics and the Rapture (CDs)

Saint Joseph Communications: Jesus and the End Times


Rapture: The End-Times Error That Leaves the Bible Behind

von David B. Currie (Autor)
Taschenbuch: 528 Seiten
Verlag: Sophia Inst Pr (März 2004)
Sprache: Englisch
ISBN-10: 1928832725
ISBN-13: 978-1928832720


The Will Catholics Be "Left Behind"?: A Critique of the Rapture and Today's Prophecy Preachers (Modern Apologetics Library)

von Carl Olson (Autor)
Taschenbuch: 395 Seiten
Verlag: Ignatius Pr (Mai 2003)
Sprache: Englisch
ISBN-10: 0898709504
ISBN-13: 978-0898709506





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